if you were working at a big company, and have to pick between these two options which would you pick? 1. all nighter pulling hardcore place with insane progress for the company 2. 9-5 max, the company is doing aite, everyone is average and cruising I’d pick 1. any day. I get depressed working at mediocre places.
I worked at both in the same company. 1) seems better at first but it is very insidious. It feels much better for a while but then you get very resentful for being taken advantage of. Large corporations can never reward you like you should be and the only outcome is burn out and resentment. But you learn a lot.
I would rather work at a place like #1 for similar reasons *however* I do think it’s too easy for the all-nighter as the default and not the exception is incredibly unhealthy. Why is an all-nighter necessary and what can be done to change it? If it’s because of crappy mgmt or not everyone…
Who are these big companies making insane progress? I can count 1, SpaceX and that’s it.
1. For heightened growth but for a short term (no longer than a year). 2. For someone who is no longer in their early career years. There is a time for both but neither are a wrong place to be.
It needs to be 1 and 2. If I do too much option 1, I could get burnout, and 2 will be too boring. Having to switch between those two options depending on the company situation could be a nice balance.
Entirely depends on how much you’re getting paid. People love framing this as a lifestyle or attitude choice, but keep in mind that you’re fundamentally *selling your time*, which is the most precious finite thing you have. No-brainer for #2 ceteris paribus
3. Working 60-80 hours a week but also get 8 hours of sleep in a night.
Agreed. But you have to feel like you belong in order for 1 to really work. Otherwise, folks are motivated by fear and that is too precarious in my opinion.
I think it depends on the potential for self-workplace match.
i work a "9-5" but since it's a small company (7 people) do large numbers, it's more like working 12 hour shifts
Only if I'm fully aligned with the project and goals. So, like, if it were my company. Otherwise, nah. Not about to make something I don't get to own for someone I probably don't like (or connect with at all). It's also a false dichotomy. Lots of in-between or sometimes on and sometimes off.
#1 but no loyalty tests. No one is treated like a god, there’s a super clear goal where success is measurable, and all ideas are equal competition.