curious what everyone's first reaction to this is. https://archive.is/4aheK
mine are mixed. - i can live with the religion one, the rest are bad, all are connected. - ironic seeing handwringing about how Americans are getting more nihilistic and money-focused... in the WSJ. - i'm skeptical of the data. did "community involvement" really plummet since 2019, or did they reword the question?
The very interesting bit to me is the diversion between patriotism and religion (and I frame religion as a comunity backed set of values, beliefs and patterns of behavior) and I just hope the money importance is not too coorelated to religion, if yes this explain token maximalism lol.
Sad to see community involvement interest down that bad in that short of time
Tbh I notice it’s a telephone poll and if the memes are true then nobody in Gen Z picked that unknown number up 😂
First reaction. Forget what economists say, we are already in a recession. People shifted to survival mode. The first signs for me were early 2022 when the Walmart CEO shared that sales of milk half gallons were outpacing gallon sales because of inflation. If families are downsizing milk, survival mode is kicking in.
my first reaction is: what is with this x axis
As a patriot I find it sad; as a father I find it worrying; as an optimist I hope it's a pendulum.
Traditional values fall to the wayside, money becomes the focus. Long term effects of capitalism - nothing matters except money. They should’ve include suicides which is also on the climb ( likely associated to the drop of one or more of these values or conflict with that pre existing notion).
The natural response to the increasing cultural acceptance of the innate selfishness of humans
that it probably isn't accurate: https://patrickruffini.substack.com/p/why-this-extremely-viral-poll-result - I find I trust polls like this less and less. Too hard to understand the stated vs revealed preferences, as @dwr likes to say :)
The effect of Internet. Patriotism, Religion and Community involvement all were essential for people to "belong". But, with Internet, you can choose where/what you belong to. People will want to be part of communities again - just hyper local and global (Internet). No middle ground.
I want to deeply check potential polling biases especially since those are huge shifts. Unclear how recent polls were conducted, but if also phone, some clear potential confounders in changing demo of who answers phones Also small sample size
Makes me wanna read https://www.amazon.com.au/Dominion-Making-Western-Tom-Holland/dp/1408706954
First reaction, this is bad. Would be interesting to see the stats for other countries.
Things like quality of life, and free time would be interesting to on this chart.
Wealthy people are not patriotic and we haven’t faced national crisis making most individualistic and willing to jump ship - V2 money is increasing so slowly that all other factors including loyalty, paternity, and patriotism are tanking. Paired with nietzche god is dead
That quote about weak/strong men/times came to mind immediately. Also, most journalists only manipulate the y axis. This one did both x and y, truly an artist.
My more serious answer is that these are signals that life is pretty good (relative to history) - no war, no existential threat - yet also a reflection of a pointlessness of it all. People don’t feel wealthy enough and that sucks the joy out of the rest of life.
Seen some recent reports from PwC & Deloitte on changing value systems Money obv important with inflation but also meaningful work & ethics is huge for gen z & millenials — 75% rather work for an org that makes a difference in society — 37% rejected a job deemed unethical
Makes a lot of sense. The harder things get financially, the lower the avg confidence in god and state, the less likely you are to have the time to be involved with your community and the less comfortable the thought of having kids is.
Not gonna lie, I thought I misread the title... "Values" - this interpretation of values bothered me more than the results of the poll.
First two looks like a civilizational leap forward.
