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Dan Romero@dwr
11/23/2022

Contrarian: we need actual apps people find useful. Everyone wants to build infrastructure but very few are building actual apps.

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soosh@sushen
11/23/2022

I agree with your statement. But also at the same time, not everything needs to be on web3. Many people are happy using web2 services/app so there has to be a value prop to switch or start to learn a new app. With that being said, yes not many actual useful apps at the moment!

In reply to @dwr
wijuwiju.eth@wijuwiju
11/23/2022

Yes, please. Preferably those that solve real problems too

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pushix@pushix
11/23/2022

I am going to write a blog piece about this. I think web3's biggest issue is that people are mimicking the 2010's and everyone wants to build a platform and sell shovels during a gold rush, but no one is building apps. This should be an apps golden age. I think we need a shift.

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Tom ⌐◨-◨@dstny
11/23/2022

Agreed; the whole reason I started Join is the lack of off-ramping apps that aren’t a CEX — I’ll always prefer a clean app to a shoddy UI on top of complicated infrastructure

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Bravo Johnson@bravojohnson
11/23/2022

Maybe we need a new suprastructure first

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GabrielAyuso.eth ⌐◨-◨@gabrielayuso
11/23/2022

100% agree on this. Too much focus on infra, tokens, picks and shovels, not enough focus on useful apps and experiences.

In reply to @dwr
11/23/2022

How is this contrarian?

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blobs@blobs
11/23/2022

Yes. > First, apps inspire infrastructure. Then that infrastructure enables new apps. https://www.usv.com/writing/2018/10/the-myth-of-the-infrastructure-phase/

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tg@tg
11/24/2022

Contrarian: we need actually useful infrastructure, and not just useless infrastructure made faster. Everyone wants to build useless infrastructure that’s faster. No one building actually useful infrastructure. Until that happens, web3 apps are nearly all useless, because web2 beats those in every way.