Would you be willing to confirm your phone number with Warpcast via SMS (wouldn't be publicly visible): 1. Gave you an algo boost 2. You could see other users verified by Warpcast
What would be the difference between SMS verification and ENS or DNS verification?
Agree, it helps to enhance trust among users. In fact, I would go even further, to verification using documents and a selfie!
I'd do almost anything for an algo boost
I think a better system would be a personal 5 minute verification google hangout with dwr.eth
As long as it's not "lost"/sold to third party. I get enough bs calls/texts
Could you convince me you are not saving my number and using it only while verifying? I’d still be skeptical but I would want to hear an earnest explanation of your intent And yes, yes I would verify via sms and have done so for other less trustworthy founders
Yeah but I assume then ur not going to let me use VOIP 😔
Yes, and I think this is a great idea to fight spam. Although I don't know if it would work
Probably yes It would be nice if this is done in a way that doesn’t advantage Warpcast over other clients.
Would do it, but would also love two FIDs per phone number for product accounts
from what I've learned from modding a Discord server, it's very easy to get burner numbers to verify accounts
Prefer 2FA via authy etc- also we use ENS already, why the web2 thing?
yes because I trust you Ser. But why? kyc-ish antispam/bot?
If this is one of several potential verifications, more kinds of verification can be added over time, and multiple clients can read and treat these verifications differently — then yes. Are you planning on putting the verification/badge/credential onchain?
If it was the only option, and there was no ZK wrapper etc, then I would likely refuse out of principle.
yep because i spin up virtual numbers to avoid sharing my main phone number anyway 🫡
How does giving up PII benefit the end user? If the answer to this is compelling enough then I would consider it. Getting the number because “more data” is always gonna be a no from me dawg
I’ll go against the tide & say “no” out of principle. I’m not even anon here but some people are, & I deeply respect their choice. I think having to “trust” the platform about how the phone number will be used is against the privacy and crypto ethos of trustlessness. Phone numbers are last century’s tech.
I would prefer not to link my phone number I love that the service doesn’t require many connections to the outside world
Thinking this is a Hard NO unless done in a privacy preserving way. Not unexpected that so many people say yes though and I get why you’re asking. 🙏Continue to lead and as you said, there are no shortcuts.
I live life in the public eye as a CM, so would do it for the boost personally. I think it comes down to what you value more, full personal discretion, or post reach.
Yes, but I’d want to know to what extent the number would be used - one time verification only? Stored and used later?
I think it depends what it is we are verifying? I really like verification via Primary ENS: - it’s onchain - it’s already public - it’s unique and unspoofable (I can’t pretend to be vitalik.eth) - there’s cost to it (disincentive to spammers) - A each wallet can only have 1 primary
Would prefer using proof of personhood from a linked address: Sismo, PoH, Gitcoin Passport, BrightID…
no thanks. if this is for spam management, then it may not really that effective bc there are lots of services that allow anyone to get sms veri codes (i know bc i only use voip numbers and have had to use these services when platforms give me no other choice for verification 😓)
BTW, in many services with hundreds of millions or billions of users (e.g. Discord) phone verification is what's standing between users and a flood of Spam. But still, any "Web3" labeled project with phone verification smells as a "Web2" project.
yes and my hunch is revealed preference of many folks saying “no” is that they don’t actually care or won’t think twice
Absolutely not! I'd literally never use the app again if that sort of bullshit were added.
because I know and trust the team at this point, yes but if this were some new web3-friendly app I stumbled across as a new user today, no
I have two numbers & could get more prepaid numbers for under $2 if I wanted to. Not sure what this would solve.
I think doing such things privately and out of band from the main protocol will have a centralizing effect as Warpcast will be the only client with this verification data.
Prefer not to link phone number, for privacy, this makes potential honeypot of data on a server somewhere out there How about some kind of zkProof that user has a unique mobile?
Do I as a non verified user get the choice to neglect any boosted posts?
no way I would promote to use of any farcaster client that does not use this unethical practise
Well, I do it for Twitter because they force me to, so yes. But I am against phone numbers. I feel not solving spam closer to the protocol layer will entrench WC as the only viable client and make FC a DINO protocol.
You already have a record of our emails anyway. A lot of people prefer to be anon. Not sure how you’d implement this without saving it.
for what? this app supposed to be different than X what the point of decentralization if u need that private thing?
1. I share my phone number as a last resort. 2. In the context of today, this is irrelevant information, as people often change their place of residence.
Nope, I don’t use phone on anything for any reason. It’s a shame when great apps require it.
I can see why that’s a useful stop gap solution till you implement a better one. And I have done this with other apps, but it would make me quite uncomfortable here. It’s very much out of principle and I just expect Farcaster to uphold it. That makes me hold Warpcast that much more accountable.
Seeing all of the comments here saying no, I will also change my answer to no. Clearly the lack of need for external info is a value prop. I agree - only reason I originally said yes was algo boost. Certainly there must be a better solve for this than a phone number? Doesn’t seem that it would be the right move.
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Culturally, you might risk making this a network for the type of person who is willing to dox their phone number. There are already a few of those networks. I do recognize the need for a solution to keep the Sybil barbarians at bay…
no at all. you should use web3 platforms, ENS is enough . there is no need to verify by phone number! No with veto!
This is moving too much towards web2. I know phone numbers are meant to fight spam (even though unsuccessfully, as we see with Twitter). But in web3 we can do other things to fight spam, without involving phone numbers and similar stuff. So I wouldn't confirm my phone number.
Lol no I dont want to share my phone no, my country laws are too hard for crypto
I don't think it would really help with bots. Like, phone numbers are so cheap... Maybe something like Gitcoin Passport?
why any crypto project ever should think sms verification is an option. we have 100 zk did projects and ppl really still build on sms? come on...
On principle I am not doxxing my number period. On principle very much against cypher punks ideals. On practical level, with all the sim swap attacks Im not entering real number anywhere. On practical level, bots can just get virtual numbers for verification.
Phone number as a form of verification is always a bad idea. Same as email address. These methods proven to be old, insecure, and easily faked. The main reason is email and phone number do not belong to people who use them.
I'm ready, phone number, twitter, galxe password, ens domain, gitcoin, etc.. but this is should be optinal
Spontaneously, no But in the end, if I remember well I already did it with email (which is to me kind of the same - very personal information) so I guess I'd do it even if I'm against it philosophically.
If it's not publicly visible and helps keep this space clean, of course I would.
Nope, even though I trust the team I don't know where that data would go in the future If this came in I'd have to buy a burner phone and sim and just use that
First thought: what's in it for them? I'm asked to give something away, so I'd like to know why. Is it increased verification/KYC, to associate me with other DBs, to be able to send me SMS?
What are the reasons Warpcast would want the phone number for? Really like the fact it’s only an eth address and no other info req. depending on the reasons might be willing to share number but my default is no regardless of the algo boost etc
also i would happily use proof-of-humanness by World Coin for even more boost
Yes but could we do some other Sybil score like Gitcoin Passbook? SMS has known vulns and is inconvenient when I’m out of country
This would undo a lot of the credible neutrality of farcaster 😕
No, on principle. Even assuming trust for FC, we would need to trust a 3rd party integration not to leak or get pwned. For Sybil resistance, proof of personhood (any variety) would be better. I'd love to see Farcaster continue to be a beacon for a better way to do things. This ain't it.
I would use a burner assuming I would never be contacted again.
I've had some time to think about this more calmly after my initial negative reaction, and now I hate it even more. By tying it in with an algo boost, you'd create a 2-tier system that favors doxxed accounts over anons. The algorithm should punish me for creating stupid posts, not for valuing my online anonymity.
pretty strong preference for a different, web3-native form of uniqueness verification
can link up with gtc passport for anti-sybil. they've been fighting sybils over there for years already
Well you have a choice 1) if you want crypto Degens probably not 2) 99% or the rest of the world would be in favor 3) me ZK yup this is cool but don’t believe we are there yet and then even if we were good luck for recovery…
Sounds a like a P2W algo where the price is your phone number.
