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ted (not lasso)@ted

6/14/2023

asking for a friend (me), does the phrase “network state” excite anyone beyond technocrats and crypto bros?

web3d3v | sonsOfCrypto.com@web3d3v

6/14/2023

👋 I think it is coolest thing happening in crypto I don't understand why so many people are dunking on it ? Especially in current government environment & general stagnation. I don't understand how are governance & coordination experiments bad ? #networksStateCitizen

Avi 💙@savvyavi

6/14/2023

Nope!

Roy Zorbison @0xen

6/14/2023

it doesn't really excite me because when I try to visualize what it actually physically looks like it I have a hard imagining anything other than walled compounds or private-micro cities at odds with local populations, hostile even. fundamentally set apart. too close to a cult for my tastes.

Alditrus@alditrus

6/14/2023

Depends on how you define network state. If it means generally improving human coordination using decentralized technologies which in turn reforms existing institutions, I'm all for that. If it means building a brand new form of government using blockchain, that one makes me a bit uncomfy.

Jordan Kutzer@jk

6/14/2023

It doesn’t excite me… Feels like everything will be a network in the long run. So if this is some vision of the future, it isn’t considering the trend of networks becoming the default.

kenny@kenny

6/14/2023

is ok but could prob be improved on organic state? peaceful state? non-violent state?

Charlie Harrington@whatrocks

6/14/2023

“Hive” from Terra Ignota series is my preferred term!

Sergey Ukustov@ukstv

6/14/2023

I have a close friend who is as far away from crypto bro type as you could imagine. He considers it a very compelling idea. Less corruption, and less reasons for violence (why would you attack a group of people who would disperse immediately maintaining the social fabric still), more freedom.

☀️na@na

6/14/2023

social scientists ex. Jan van Dijk

Jeadie@jeadie

6/14/2023

As someone coming back to crypto (avoided the hype) it means nothing. It needs to take a lesson from farcaster - the benefits can't be crypto/ideological

Adrienne@adrienne

6/14/2023

Pretty sure those are the only circles that even know the term.

j4ck • icebreaker@j4ck

6/14/2023

curious for @grin’s take given one of our convos at FarCon

Mac Budkowski 🥝@macbudkowski

6/14/2023

I think most non-tech people don't get the phrase. I've been writing a serialized cyberpunk novel and called this distributed and powerful country Diaspora :)

GabrielAyuso.eth ⌐◨-◨@gabrielayuso

6/14/2023

no

blobs@blobs

6/15/2023

no

Mike @mc

6/15/2023

No

Jam@jameshih

6/15/2023

As a profitable category name yes, anything else not really.

Colin@colin-

6/15/2023

Are you telling me people aren’t going to jump at the chance to join a trustless, cryptographically ensured network state??

Alex Palmer@thatalexpalmer

6/15/2023

Don’t think so.

Devin Elliot@notdevin

6/15/2023

I imagine really dynamic jail cells

mk@mk

6/15/2023

Sounds Orwellian TBH.

Ashinthewild@ashinthewild

6/15/2023

I think it sounds down right grammeton cleric good

Corbin Page@corbpage

6/15/2023

Religion is kind of a network state. "Network state" is just the technocrat term for it.

Jared @jaredbusker

6/15/2023

None of my political friends know the phrase.

Matthew@matthew

6/15/2023

@cryptpal

jacob ☼@jacob

6/15/2023

it's a good technical descriptor, like how the USA is a "Federal Republic". It will not be the thing that people identify with. The actual instantiations will be amazing symbols with an accompanying ideology—and that will probably be people's first touch point.

goki@goki

6/15/2023

i bet people (me) would be excited to pull up to the network club 😎🪩

m_j_r@m-j-r

6/15/2023

the way I'd frame it: what town thrives without a community center? not sure if balaji's framework is 100% sound, but there definitely are common structures, on a global basis, that should get the resources to maintain public goods.

Katherine@keccers

6/15/2023

Evangelicals have been doing exit for decades but they don’t call it that lol

Tayyab@tayyab

6/15/2023

No.

Max Jackson@mxjxn

6/15/2023

The network state is the "we need to settle mars" of crypto. It's an interesting thought experiment and a non-solution for the systemic and social issues we face.

Jess Zhang@jess-zhang-ziyue

6/15/2023

Nah. Term itself comes off as not genuinely community oriented. “Network” to me implies a value based exchange instead of something more in line of being selfless/independent of ulterior motives.

Jess Zhang@jess-zhang-ziyue

6/15/2023

Also. I see it as the financialization of the final frontier of feminine power, social power. It can be seen both ways. On the positive front women finally gets financially recognized for their work and efforts in this area. On the negative, clearly takes away from the authenticity of connections.

🛰️ of 🫶 + 🪐 of 🪄@zachharris

6/15/2023

As an elder millennial dad with sub par hygiene and below average IQ… my mind instantly shuts off when I hear that. I think wow Pretentious AF and Nerdville USA. But doesn’t every Cali Resident have a little technocratic geographic bias?

Keith Axline@kaxline

6/15/2023

Only when I map it to “Sovereign Communities” in my head

Nounish Professor ⌐◧-◧@nounishprof

6/15/2023

The crypto gals get pretty excited too —especially the DAO-ish ones.

Russell Castagnaro@rcastag

6/15/2023

We've described the network state the same way we described Bitcoin and Ethereum. We emphasize technology over relatable use cases. Is it any wonder folks consider this a snoozer? There are great examples in books like "The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer" and "Daemon"

Adam@adam-

6/15/2023

@hillis had a really good take on this when he chatted with @chase's podcast. Well worth listening to: https://www.othersidepod.xyz/episode/71

Antimo@antimofm

6/16/2023

What I think is that it doesn't really excite even most technocrats or crypto bros, but they echo this sentiment as virtue signaling It's basically the Sapiens of web3