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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgr
7/16/2023

Trying a dark visioning exercise. When you think “dystopia” what’s the top feature of the world that immediately occurs to you?

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Kiran Pathakota@kpats
7/16/2023

No water. Concrete and metal everywhere with no people or animals inhabiting.

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dawufi@dawufi
7/16/2023

Huge screens

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simondlr@simondlr
7/16/2023

Hidden, unclear, or deeply misaligned and entrenched structures of power.

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Cameron Armstrong@cameron
7/16/2023

Feature wise - a muting of the color palette, specifically of people’s clothes. Doesn’t need to be to grey, just a “reduction in variance” as a vibe

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Sean Wince@seanwince
7/16/2023

Absolute and total surveillance of everyone and everywhere

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0xen@0xen
7/16/2023

wasteland environment

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padpad@padpad
7/16/2023

trends taken to extremes

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Mike @mc
7/16/2023

Serfdom

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Ben 🛡️@benersing
7/16/2023

Humans no longer at the top of the food chain.

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Canada@canada
7/16/2023

Smoke stacks - as far as eye can see...

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moreReese@morereese
7/16/2023

No beauty

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_slow_crypto@slowcrypto
7/16/2023

Extreme bureaucracy. Minimal human interface.

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Phil Cockfield@pjc
7/16/2023

Tyranny → (loss of privacy*) → thought police → societal entrapment. Plus: always raining, smog filled, Tokyo-esque doom scapes, which seems to go hand in hand with ↑. *

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nixo@nixo
7/16/2023

a distracted populace who all tattle on each other and use peer shaming to discourage others from asserting rights to privacy or sovereignty (we are already there in many places)

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Semui@semui
7/17/2023

Lack of emotion. People concealing their true thoughts and feelings out of fear.

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Shiva Muruganandham@msp
7/17/2023

A Venus like atmosphere + brutalist metal architecture

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Shiva Muruganandham@msp
7/17/2023

lived experience - first few months when I moved to Prague and heard the air raid sirens go off on their monthly tests. Minutes long monotonous wailing sound as the background score to an otherwise normal weekday afternoon in the city.

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Alex Palmer@thatalexpalmer
7/17/2023

Pursuit of pleasure and escapism at the cost of dealing with reality on its own terms. Pursuit of building the popular at the cost of building the necessary. Pursuit of indiscriminate moral panics at the cost of nuanced concern. Pineapple on pizza.

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Shiva Muruganandham@msp
7/17/2023

(lived experience) legacy air raid sirens going off on their monthly tests in Prague. Long, monotonous wailing background score to an otherwise normal weekday afternoon in the city. Constant war time/doom world sounds/warnings/announcements.

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7/17/2023

resignation to a hopeless future

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Alephwyr@alephwyr
7/17/2023

Extreme control but minimal legibility and accessibility. Doesn't have to be top down control necessarily. Could be a Philip K Dick or Italo Calvino style clusterfuck.

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Colin Johnson@colin-
7/17/2023

Suppression

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Timber ☀️@timber
7/17/2023

Cold 🥶

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robin@robin
7/17/2023

gang gang ice cream so good

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7/17/2023

I close my eyes and see a society where I am advertised to nonstop, adblock is illegal, and there's really nothing else to do but consume.

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Varun Srinivasan@v
7/17/2023

no trees

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yesyes@yesyes
7/17/2023

Zero privacy - mass surveillance

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nnnnicholas@nicholas
7/17/2023

science experiments on living humans against their will

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Alex Cameron@alexcameron
7/17/2023

extreme class structure

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Jonny Mack@nonlinear
7/17/2023

no frontiers, no progress, infinite stagnation

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craabit@craabit
7/17/2023

Permanent mass surveillance combined with social credit system by a faceless self-serving bureaucracy.

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misha de ridder 🪨@mdr
7/17/2023

you can’t walk anywhere

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Chukwuka Osakwe@chukwukaosakwe
7/17/2023

Powerful federal governments.

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Eric Platon@ic
7/17/2023

Small cities heavily guarded behind huge walls to protect them from the unlucky, vast majority. The only time the dwellers get out of their bubble is to get resources. No more climate problems, as these cities are small and selective. Like on average the eCO2 tonnage is very low, but disparity city/rest is 1000x.

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fufu prophet@frdysk
7/17/2023

every human has a designated role decided by a governing body (AI/humans), no dispute in given role.

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tadas@tadas
7/17/2023

black hole

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Ferj@ferj
7/17/2023

For me, the top feature of a dystopian world is a lack of courage to fight for the good, the true, and the beautiful. The result: a prison planet filled with entire populations of neutered, hedonistic drones incapable of any form of creative expression or independent thought.

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Ferj@ferj
7/17/2023

For me, the top feature of a dystopian world is an overall lack of courage to fight for the good, the true, and the beautiful. The result: a prison planet filled with entire populations of neutered, hedonistic drones incapable of any form of creative expression or independent thought.

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Siddharth Raval@raval--
7/17/2023

An exercise for "utopia" too plis?

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MC Faceman @faceman
7/17/2023

total surveillance

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JJ Joseph@0xjj
7/17/2023

CBDC

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Dennis Layden@d3layd
7/17/2023

HL2 esque citadels

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July@july
7/17/2023

The greatest trick dystopia ever pulled was convincing the world it's a utopia

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RedemptionFox@redemptionfox
7/17/2023

Total control

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Jimmu@jimmu
7/17/2023

Half destroyed tall buildings with small bits of vegetation growing on them

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Vitalik Buterin@vbuterin
7/17/2023

Grey, dullness, homogeneity.

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Kelly McCoy@dbkw
7/17/2023

Fascism

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Ike@iw
7/17/2023

broken, decaying, hot and humid, and mostly abandoned concrete-jungle urban centers. Like LA today but without the people.

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Matthew@matthew
7/17/2023

a lack of scarcity

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Eiður Á. Möller@etude
7/17/2023

Central control followed by mismanagement followed by starvation

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PhiMarHal@phimarhal
7/17/2023

Tall buildings, skyscrapers. Interesting exercise. Thank you for posting this.

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Arra Catch-22@arra
7/17/2023

Forced uniform. White top, black bottom

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7/17/2023

Phantom Tollbooth-style Doldrums

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🟨.0x0z.eth@0x0z
7/17/2023

Nothing.

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Jackson@jacks0n
7/17/2023

2 + 2 = 5. All communication is lies, everyone’s an informant.

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eunika🍒@eunika
7/17/2023

Brutalist architecture

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John Palmer@john
7/17/2023

A lot of these feel unrealistically like the result of malicious punishment by an authoritarian regime. Framed as a “feature,” my answer is ability to pay for human connection, or “not needing to” go outside.

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m_j_r@m-j-r
7/18/2023

panopticon w/ no reinforceable bill of rights from first principles. it ends up mostly with psychological despair where one attempts to escape or disassociate after a while, only to be expertly put back into a state of captive attention by a superintelligent system that is maximally extractive of that attention.

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Ananth @ananth
7/18/2023

Methods to coordinate to find solutions for known problems are deemed illegal or outright banned

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgr
7/18/2023

Responses summary https://warpcast.com/vgr/0xc6a382

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7/18/2023

the 'severance' scenario immediately comes to mind.

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Colin Johnson@colin-
7/19/2023

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