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Les Greys@les
10/24/2022

What do you consider your phone number to be? Anon, pseudo, or full-id? What would classify as full-id (aka kyc)?

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Leo Chen (EthDenver)@leochen
10/24/2022

Phone number is fully KYC’ed I assume in most cases

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Sophie@sophie
10/24/2022

Phone number is full-id because it can easily be traced back to you, but this is only because it used to be a unique and useful identifier. If it weren’t for existing databases of it, I’d say phone number is much less intrusive than name/social media/age

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Jordan Kutzer@jk
10/24/2022

Full-id. But not full engagement. I consider FaceTime video/audio and iMessage to be full-id and full engagement.

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Victor Ma@vm
10/24/2022

full-id, so people need burners

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chrisb (boscolo.eth)@boscolo
10/24/2022

I consider my phone number to be one of two universal addresses I can give to almost anyone and know they will be able to reach me. (The other is an email address.) It's full-id for most today. We (3num.co) are making a pseudonymous one you can mint as an NFT.

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Eugenijus Radlinskas@eugenijus
10/24/2022

My phone number is quite literally my ID. The SIM card has a KYCed multi-PIN protected hardware private key in it that is used as a Qualified Electronic Signature. Meaning it can be used to sign in to government services, banks and even sign legally binding agreements like founding a company or getting a mortgage.

In reply to @les
10/24/2022

Full id. I would love to see private key based phone numbers as a destination node routed by disposable traditional phone numbers

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Peter Rood@pdr
10/24/2022

One is full-id as I’ve had the number since early 2000s Others are pseudo to anon

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zoz.eth@0xzoz
10/24/2022

Full Id. Stored in a gov db

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Alex Poon@cerberus
10/24/2022

Full ID, particularly many web2 apps treat it as such

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Ed O'Shaughnessy@eddieosh
10/24/2022

Public, since the teleco got hacked recently! Full id is probably my browser fingerprint 😬

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Adrian le Bas@ad
10/24/2022

Full-id and public, on my website for over 10 years Granted, I almost never answer sudden calls

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jozhu.eth@jo
10/25/2022

phone number is full-id as it directly links to 3rd party communication apps (telegram/whatsapp/wechat) as my identity.

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10/25/2022

full ID

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Matt Galligan@mg
10/25/2022

My primary is full-id for sure. It’s treated as compromised and untrustworthy for security but still valuable for communication. I have a few others that are for different purposes on a spectrum of anon or pseudo.

In reply to @les
10/25/2022

Pro tip: metropcs doesn’t check ids on using their month to month plan. Never had a problem. Semi-Id?

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Les Greys@les
10/25/2022

Thank you for these responses. Gives a lot to think about. I see phone # as full-id too. Noodling how the data is siloed (across entire telco network and +), phone numbers may hold same keys as anon->pseudo->full-I’d, when interacting between diff networks, with bridges. Not much diff than web3 rn. Dunno. Thinkin

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crypt0disc0@crypt0disc0
10/25/2022

sadly full id. always have a burner

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sam carter | 현춘@samhcarter
10/25/2022

Full ID if given to an individual, pseudo if for an app/company, somewhere in between as an email sign-off (listed to encourage network effect — and if I’m emailing you, I’d probably respond to a text or voicemail from you, anyway).

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Yash Karthik@yashkarthik
10/25/2022

FULL-ID in india phone numbers are attached to a national id card (aadhar card).

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Rhys Taylor@rhys
10/25/2022

@perl #thoughts

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Tayyab@tayyab
10/25/2022

Pseudo, if standalone. I’ve come from KYC, with all the metadata it is literally a full-id.

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shoni.eth@alexpaden
10/25/2022

- I worry about sim swapping, changing it while old accounts are attached (like an email when your domain expires) - I have 1 lifelong personal, 3-4 google voice I no longer use. Considering changing within 5yr -I would classify it as kyc that can be forged through abuse like Facebook marketplace; please confirm code

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shoni.eth@alexpaden
10/25/2022

One other note: I haven’t memorized a phone number since having a landline