"Unlike the pronatalists, who want to solve depopulation problems by bringing in entire new demographic cohorts of people, who are likely to have radically different values from us, on a mass scale, I'd rather we preserve our culture and focus on keeping alive and healthy the people we already have."
I’m guessing this post only really applies to breakthroughs in life extension, since immigration is the only feasible solution to depopulation right now
How would you propose we handle the birth rate trending below replacement?
Whos quote is this? Out of context this seems like a false dichotomy. If the goal is to preserve life, the whole lifecycle needs preserving. Life is about change, not ANY change, but not just preservation either.
Feels like the message is that we work better together when each person has a different worldview :)
I think the same but for lot of people this is racist
Population reduction is inevitable.
"open culture" would vampire attack "closed culture" in the face of depopulation...
keep humanity from fading with the same provably effective strategy we've used for thousands of years or bet the species on unproven life extension tech pretty clear choice
So this is an ironic twist on the stock anti-immigrant argument to make a life-extension argument instead. Do you actually believe it though? Ofc living longer is good, but are you opposed to natalism & having more kids?
underlying assumption here is that there is no globally shared value among all ppl from different demography...which I tend to disagree. Ppl of same social-economy class regardless of demography shares more common values than ppl from different social-economy class but same demography.
This seems like a strange quote. What precisely is the message? Fear the future generations? No more kids, let's live longer? Or is it a matter of not listening to eachother enough?
Our brains are optimized for the world we grow up in, so new brains are always going to be more fit than older generations. I'm all for extreme longevity, but if we're not actively illuminating our universe with brilliant new minds, what are we even doing here as a species?
Interesting, never thought about longevity from the liberalism-conservatism POV 🤔
while focusing on the health and longevity of the current population is a valid approach to tackling depopulation, it's also important to consider the potential benefits of cultural diversity and integration. A balanced approach is often the most beneficial in the long term.
Fun twist. Although, in practice, it seems shockingly hard to fashion ourselves into radically different people than our parents. Peel away layers of abstraction, nature expresses itself.
I would love to read again the dragon tale you upload once.
Add enough scale and time, and cultural preservation disappears. But as a side note related to this, I'll say it right now: effective altruism is 100% an exploitation scam that seeks to use hypothetical future justifications for executing actual in-the-moment exploitation.
Your opinion is absolutely right But if we want to consider life, maybe this is the goal, so that some people can tell about life. If our family thought the same, maybe we wouldn't be.
