i think we’re mostly in agreement here? my sense is that elad means “not owning territory” in the “not looking for diplomatic recognition from pre-existing nation states as it’s own territory” sense. 

or @krel are you saying you’d like to not rule that out?

think we are in agreement wrt what the world lools like today (and nouns place in it)

I open a wedge of possible disagreement wrt a future world — my base mode of operation is to expect our tech trajectory (incl agi) to change things in hard-to-predict ways, and that includes things like states and territory

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