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John Palmer@john
9/18/2023

Question for everyone, and sorry this may seem trite at this point. Why do you think friend tech is popping off while almost all other consumer crypto apps are pretty flat? Looking for honest opinions, even if people have already said it, or even if it’s contrarian.

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mike rainbow (rainbow mike)@mikedemarais.eth
9/18/2023

it makes people money by default

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9/18/2023

shortest distance to speculation in current market conditions + most notable ct degens narrating + airdrop promise + the ability to scratch that existential-worth question subliminally (personally believe this last point is quite significant)

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Steve @sdv.eth
9/18/2023

Arbitrary points = airdrop farmers = engagement ⬆️ Invite system = walled garden of content = exclusivity (though this was more in the beginning, now it’s really curiosity/fomo ⬆️) Simple buy/sell mechanic = easy botting = speculatooors ⬆️

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Leighton@lay2000lbs
9/18/2023

It's a unique type of content & social relationship that you can't get anywhere else. That's the core differentiated & sustainable product offering IMO. The wrapping of ability to make a little money, points, improved onboarding experience, all enhance that

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Rani@4484
9/18/2023

come on john. quite simply, cuz CT can’t make money on FC or party. it’s a cesspool.

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Rani@4484
9/18/2023

CT is 90% disingenuous grifters and shillers.

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Katherine@keccers
9/18/2023

Tourists left, many that remain ♥️ gambling. Aggressive bonding curve makes action ramp up quickly Endorsed and shilled by influencer crowd that herds the 🐑. Fun 4 some to buy access to those ppl too Everyone makes money. Maybe not from trading but they expect airdrop — ppl are being paid to use it

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Liang良peace🇺🇸🇨🇳@liang
9/18/2023

It properly tokenized something. and numba goes up!

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phil@phil
9/18/2023

speculation

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shukudai.dayo.eth🌹☀️@shukudaidayo.eth
9/18/2023

FT democratizes one of the big innovations of this cycle - tokengated chats. PFP NFT collection, DAOs, and even individual artists all made gated Discords, and they’re still one of my favorite parts of Web3. FT makes deploying the token, pricing it, and hosting the chat super easy!

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Joe Toledano@joetoledano
9/18/2023

People tend to respond to incentives and the opportunity to make money is a pretty powerful one

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Ben 🛡️@0xbenersing.eth
9/18/2023

People love to gamble. Plain and simple.

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petar.base@petar
9/18/2023

Afaik there’s a FT airdrop coming, so people are most likely farming it at this point.

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9/18/2023

We covered this recently at TTS. Airdrop hunting and a pretty incestuous shill frenzy (influencer, influencer) In the long run, it will fizzle http://tinkeringsociety.xyz/post/onlyfrenz

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9/18/2023

Think many people talking about it constantly made the most impact. How to know otherwise that you are missing out

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Leo Nasskau@lsn
9/18/2023

FT was the first thing to go big after I flipped from twitter to farcaster; it was interesting to me to see how much of the excitement was restricted to twitter

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🔴brian is live@briang
9/18/2023

the innovation with crypto lies with the innovation of money friend tech did something innovative with money—is it the perfect PMF product? probably not but a step in the right direction

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Cryptic@cryptic
9/18/2023

Bear market FOMO and airdrop farmers

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Likee@likee
9/18/2023

Accessible, easy to understand, integrates good gambling metrics sprinkled with hopes for a token airdrop.

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22440@22440
9/18/2023

Imo it is because it leverages a huge existing user base that contains basically all crypto people (Twitter) whilst also incentivising every single person with a loud voice in that user base (crypto influencers) to both use it and shout about it

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Chris James@articulate
9/18/2023

Combination of the number go up and the fun of private chats with larger accounts Larger accounts love the ego trip of number go up It will all end in tears eventually Maybe something in the model that survives in some way though

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seneca@seneca
9/18/2023

It’s just another casino. The allure of 100xing your $ is too strong.

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​woj@woj.eth
9/18/2023

only friend tech as a yield farm is growing friend tech as a consumer app is not growing at all

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Max Jackson : mxjxn@tokenart.eth
9/18/2023

Volume always goes to where the gambling is best

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zom@zom
9/18/2023

Novel combination of crypto’s killer UX - i.e. speculation - and tried and tested web2 acquisition + engagement loops Really don’t think it needs to be thought boi’d into more than that tbh

In reply to @john
9/18/2023

Nailed onboarding apathy via speculative onboarding and the dopamine rush of initial fee earnings from bots trading your keys. Within <1 min most earn more than twtr has ever paid them ($0) Come for the money, stay for the choose your own adventure game. many diff metas to play closely aligns creator effort w upside

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Devin Elliot@notdevin.eth
9/18/2023

I don’t get it, but it’s also so much my anti that I’ll never go look at it either

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Lakshman Sankar@lakshman
9/18/2023

The entry behavior (memeing/gambling) is the biggest creator of tx flow today so they’re consistently exposed to new users At the same time, the experience I have with the app every day (not a gambler/speculator) feels singular; really intimate connections with creators

In reply to @john
9/18/2023

Under the appreciated aspect is that the bonding curve creates a pool you can always exit out of, even if it's at a loss. FT + Users making money on the fees and not the underlying assets/keys is elegant AF. FT's structure makes it impossible to be a bag holder. You can always exit with _something_.

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matthewbrooks@matthewb
9/19/2023

- the speculative aspect of FT feels gameified rather than crassly “financial” like trading tokens or perps - very easy for users with large followings to extract value so there’s a simple built-in marketing flywheel - both creator and audience stand to profit from using FT all the above + fast/cheap L2 txns

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9/19/2023

A lot of people calling it gambling, I'd say it's an addictive social loop - If you have enough of a name, sign up, get notifs and money and *validation* immediately for being on this app - Trending app allows social discovery now And yes, clear about the money. But a lot of crypto consumer apps are not