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Vitalik Buterin@vbuterin
7/10/2023

What are other people's impressions of the difference between the cultural vibe in farcaster vs bluesky vs mastodon vs lens? (I have my own answers but am very curious what other people's answers are)

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July@july
7/10/2023

Obviously take with grain of salt Nostr: Bitcoin maxis Farcaster: Eth maxis but not degen Lens: crypto maxis, yes degen Bluesky: TPOT, generally left leaning Mastodon: other Twitter refugees Threads: people who missed the boat on becoming instafamous - a influencer power debt jubilee

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Royalaid@royalaid
7/10/2023

Cozy vs rowdy vs bullet board energy vs airdrop farm and Creator energy IMO

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AwedJob@awedjob
7/10/2023

I've been on Masto for many years now. It's very fragmented and feels isolating due to its federated nature. I haven't used the other two so I can't comment on them. I like FC a lot especially because of all the development that has been going on. The people here are helpful and friendly.

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Max Jackson@mxjxn
7/10/2023

Farcaster: more thoughtful than your avg crypto community yet somewhat insulated from greater reality Bluesky: decent but lack of strong cohesive communities Mastodon: strong communities that are very allergic to new ideas and change Lens: zero real community

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$ALEX Masmej@alexmasmej
7/10/2023

Fairly obvious: the average Farcaster user is more technically educated than Lens users, typically hacker-type (in the domain-agnostic sense of “hacker”, i.e. includes designers with a lot of energy and build-in-public mindset) and conversational (that’s rewarded here) BlueSky is more like a blog-focused Twitter

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m_j_r@m-j-r
7/10/2023

farcaster - upstream of cryptotwitter. quickest to translate ideation to deployment bluesky - "web4" twitter on new wave federation. some public figures that "are hip" mastodon - the underdog flagship(s) of "OG" federation lens - optimistic dispatcher for web3 creators, tokenized & DeFi adjacent

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0xgrain@0xgrain
7/10/2023

Wait… you guys can get Lens invites?

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Trish@trish
7/10/2023

Twitter is a shit show, let me count the ways. Bluesky is all over the place and it’s going to take more time to make my feed what I want it to be. It doesn’t motivate me WC feels warm and conversational and sufficiently nerdy. Also ephemeral. A special time before it eventually pops off. It will pop off.

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nir.eth 🌿🟣🐦☁️@nir
7/10/2023

been experiencing in aggregate and noticed that bluesky has the best memes and fc the best takes. fc satisfies my crypto twitter needs

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GolanTrevizΞ 🤘@golan
7/10/2023

Crypto capabilities better on Lens 🌿; crypto community better on Farcaster ⛩️

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woj.eth@woj
7/10/2023

lens: bots (unfortunately) fc: smart crypto people or crypto people with a lot of clout or crypto people with very little clout trying to get some mastodon/bluesky: not my vibe twitter: neutral good

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zico@zico
7/10/2023

does anyone else agree with this? farcaster has more of a builder community lens has more of a creator or content community this is how I've described the difference to people who've asked about it on twitter they're also the only two I use & care about (outside of bird app)

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7/10/2023

farcaster: tech ppl literary cafe – interesting discussions, can feel a bit serious bluesky: tech ppl open mic comedy club – interesting discussions but can be drowned out by bad stand up acts lens: convention center but no one knows what the convention is about mastodon: haven't used in years 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Alditrus@alditrus
7/11/2023

Atmosphere here is much better than Mastodon imo. Mastodon feels more defensive and there's a tendency of tone policing. Also there's more brainy web3 stuff going on. Can't vouch for Bluesky or Lens.

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andrew flanagan@flanaganplur
7/11/2023

mastodon is an unmitigated bummer, farcaster the complete opposite

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Om Malik@ommalik
7/11/2023

A good way to think about them new socials BlueSky: MSNBC Threads: Bravo Twitter: Fox Mastodon: public access Lens: channel 838 on Dish! Farcaster: actual network layer provider!

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7/11/2023

ICP projects are pariahs in crypto: Tagger.top - runs 100% on chain with a dao that votes on upgrades, all open sourced, anyone can contribute. Distrikt.app - also runs 100% on chain that is launching their dao soon. Dscvr.one - mostly on chain, we use analytics tools and feed algos off chain. All WASM based apps.

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7/11/2023

ICP projects are pariahs in crypto: Tagger.top - runs 100% on chain with a dao that votes on upgrades, all open sourced, anyone can contribute. Distrikt.app - also runs 100% on chain that is launching their dao soon. Dscvr.one - mostly on chain, we use analytics tools and feed algos off chain.

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7/11/2023

ICP projects are pariahs in crypto: Tagger.top - runs 100% on chain with a dao that votes on upgrades, all open sourced, anyone can contribute. Distrikt.app - also runs 100% on chain that is launching their dao soon. Dscvr.one - mostly on chain, we use analytics tools and feed algos off chain.

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nicovrg@nicovrg
7/11/2023

mastodon more software libertarian vibe - most of them dislike crypto and view it as promising tech spoiled by overnight wealthy brats lens not there mich tbh, ux is still terrible bluesky never bother trying what is bkue

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Dan Romero@dwr
7/11/2023

What are your answers? :)

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Les Greys@les
7/11/2023

Would love to see a comparison of answers to your Q from each graph, with a similar question to this. https://warpcast.com/les/0xf8ee3e

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgr
7/11/2023

Farcaster: open, unformed crowd Bluesky: rigid young communities Mastodon: siloed old communities Lens: ghost town of airdrop farmers Substack Notes: Bluecheck Nation Threads: idk; not inspired to find out Nostr: masochist libertarians Twitter: Rome in 477 AD

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zook@zook
7/11/2023

fc is more chill lens is 70% bots havent used the other two, twitter feels like the frontline

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GabrielAyuso.eth ⌐◨-◨@gabrielayuso
7/11/2023

I'd say culturally mastodon and farcaster are similar as in the users care about some level of decentralization/independence and they don't care much about influence and reach. BlueSky seems to be mostly verified Twitter refugees. Lens has attracted "the bad part" of crypto such as token farmers.

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vincent@pixel
7/11/2023

i am curious what your answer is

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0xLuo@0xluo
7/11/2023

Farcaster: crypto developers Bluesky: Jack and his fans Mastodon: subculture enthusiasts Lens: airdrop hunters

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Ryan Anderson@ra
7/11/2023

Bluesky: unhinged bisexual shitposters Farcaster: oops all computer science majors Mastodon: internet HOA Twitter: The fall of Rome Lens: Spam

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Max Jackson@mxjxn
7/11/2023

would really love to hear your breakdown, Vitalik

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Christian Montoya@m0nt0y4
7/11/2023

I think the initial wave of users sets the tone. It’s a sort of network effect. It can change over time (early Twitter was very different from Twitter a few years later) but once a tone is set that is the vibe that new users will see.

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Muhammad Fakhri@zai
7/11/2023

I am also curious about your answer ✌️

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Arjan Tupan@arjantupan
7/11/2023

Great question, interesting to revisit regularly. In my experience: FC: early twitter meets startup culture, kind, focus on web3 Bluesky: artists escaping Twitter. A bit fun, a bit shill, a bit art. Mastodon: never really got it. Tried but never got traction Lens: great features, little interaction for me.

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Ryan Hoover@rrhoover
7/11/2023

Ofc everyone's feed will be different but I'm seeing so much anti-Twitter sentiment on Threads. In comparison, Farcaster never felt anti-Twitter but instead a small (for now) corner of builders and tinkerers in tech.

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aerique@aerique
7/11/2023

• farcaster: US-centric hackernews and web3 mix. good atmosphere and energy, interesting people to follow but sometimes it feels like i'm reading linkedin motivational pieces ("success is a choice") • bluesky: feels like where the average twitter refugee goes, just shooting shit and having a laugh. hype centric

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Jorge Ordovás@joobid
7/11/2023

After several months using Lens, Farcaster and Bluesky day by day (I didn't like Mastodon) I have to say Farcaster is the most interesting community if you look for web3 and crypto content. Lens doesn't seem to be a social network but something different and Bluesky is like an initial Twitter but not interesting by now

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warren@warren
7/11/2023

Farcaster is the best. Period.

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Specktacular 🔵@specktacular
7/11/2023

Can't speak for the latter three, but I have been enjoying the more professional, calm demeanor of those casting far and wide here. Certainly compared to the bird app, which (before I started weeding out) can be not very positive. Love it here. Thank you for asking and all You and Devs do for the world 💚

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Chainleft@chainleft
7/11/2023

Farcaster: Calm techie Bluesky: Angry techie Lens: Degens Mastodon: Redditor that never used Reddit Twitter: Low EQ Threads: Mainstream

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Adam@adam-
7/11/2023

Can only speak to my experience: Farcaster: More signal than noise. Bullish sentiment towards ecosystem of apps that allow for a more customized experience. Bluesky: Twitter refugees looking for a less toxic twitter experience. Bullish on dev vibe building out AP protocol. Experimenting w/ new container experiences

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Cafe Con Criptos@cafeconcriptos
7/11/2023

Lens UX is not good, Farcaster is better overall on mobile.

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Rob Sanchez@robrecht
7/11/2023

is this posted on lens and the other platforms as well? Would love to see opinions of other platform users as well

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wheelie hut tuners@alexpaden
7/11/2023

bluesky was nice but I didn’t vibe with any direction, haven’t tried mastodon nor found a reason to use lens diligently, Twitter is more than FC but the concentration here was useful

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MxVoid@mxvoid
7/11/2023

Farcaster: earnestposting Bluesky: shitposting Lens: airdrop farmers Twitter: dumpster fire Mastodon: HOA of the internet Threads: brandposting

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Gala@gala
7/11/2023

Farcaster : ppl talk about stuff they do or like Lens : 98% spam(airdrop farmers) 2% try get airdrop by create original content

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kargin@k4rg1n
7/11/2023

Haven't used bluesky or mastodon. Lens is okay but I like browsing Farcaster more. Curious to hear your answer 👀

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Carlos@solana1
7/11/2023

Vitalik... is this really you?

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🍬 (Soft Candy Shell)@zachharris
7/11/2023

People who are on all 4 have zero life and way too much free time… Farcaster is where more of the “cool kid” and & open minded freaks and geeks hangout. Whereas, ultra vocal crackpot survivalists tend to flock to mastodon, blue sky and lens (in order of orthodoxy)

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Jackson@jacks0n
7/12/2023

Guessing all of the alts except fc are trash atm because of the flood of “spaceship man bad” people

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Pierre Pauze @pierrepauze
7/12/2023

Me posting crypto related stuffs on insta

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William Saar@saarw
7/12/2023

California web2 tech on Bluesky Libertarian crypto culture on Farcaster (quite natural, as gas fees filter out people without some Eth connection)

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Carsten@cpoetter
7/12/2023

FC: builders, Ethereum, culturally US-centric (even though not everyone is from there), financially better off Lens: more creators, more diverse, one has to actively establish new social graph and engage with it, if not danger of ghost town feeling Mastodon: not really active there, more serious Bluesky: no account

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WebOfTrust✨🔴@weboftrust
7/12/2023

Lens went downhill after airdrop twit. But UI/UX is better, they are more mature and have different app running live from image to text to Video. Farcaster is scalling up, apps are in dev and community is more wholesome and alligned towards eth ecosystem. other two i havent used, yet. None is ready of masses.

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fufu prophet@frdysk
7/12/2023

farcaster: 🗣️👂👀👨🏻‍💻 bluesky: 🍑💋💪 mastodon: 😤🤓 lens: 🤖

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intrepid@intrepid
7/12/2023

What are your thoughts on Hive it always seems to be left out of these discussions

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LanaLing@lanaling
7/24/2023

vs Phaver There are an incredible number of interesting people in this social environment. NFT-lovers, drophunters, degens. But a lot of people just want a free Lens profile …

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Sky@sky
7/25/2023

Simple vibe check -> BlueSky: @vbuterin.bsky.social Threads: @24568 Twitter: @VitalikButerin Mastodon: @[email protected] Lens: @vitalik.eth Farcaster: @varunsrin.eth (could've been)

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Jacob@jrf
7/28/2023

@atlas summary 😌 DeSo Vibes ✌️