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Vitalik Buterin@vbuterin
7/29/2023

https://reason.com/2023/07/28/say-goodbye-to-permissionless-travel/ This stuff is really sad. (Note: as the article points out, the US has had a similar policy on Europeans since 2009) Definitely want to focus more of my travel on countries that actually want people to visit them.

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đź”´brian is live@briang
7/29/2023

what’s ur favorite drink

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Benivel.eth@benivel.eth
7/29/2023

Interesting… more friction/restrictive visa policies are typically measures to prevent immigration from less affluent nations. Is the EU anticipating an influx of Americans looking to immigrate?

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Emre Ekinci@ekinci.eth
7/29/2023

Reminds me on @balajis.eth thread in 2020. his first point was about border closures https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1222921758375927808?s=46&t=ET102rQ5716eSMojtN_unw

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7/29/2023

This entire area may be amenable to a “fintech on frontend, blockchain on backend approach” as per crypto. Fintech on frontend: build modern user interfaces to these systems so you don’t need to keep re-entering data. Blockchain on backend: large online communities establish crypto passport reciprocality.

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Binji đź”´@binji
7/29/2023

ser wait till you hear about the Nepalese passport world travel is by default permissioned for most of the world who were born in “the wrong place”

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AviationDoctor@aviationdoctor.eth
7/29/2023

This being my area, I can add a bit of nuance. The authorization to enter Schengen (or the US for that matter, pre-ESTA) was always required; it was just granted at the point of border entry (i.e., on arrival). For Americans & Canadians, it means getting a visa on arrival granted by a Schengen border agent. [1/2]

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nixo@nixo
7/29/2023

this is going to be a huge deterrent for the loosely planned europe trips that so much of the world is fond of. really bums me out because my plan is europe for at least early 2024

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Mac Budkowski 🥝@macbudkowski
7/29/2023

Tbh, I like it. EU can generate revenue via de facto travel tax and control who arrives in our land. And saying "All Americans are good" is like saying "All Iranians are bad". Btw I had to get a Visa because of visiting Cuba but waited only 48hours to get it and don't have to do it for the next 10 yrs 🤷‍♂️

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​woj@woj.eth
7/29/2023

all my homies hate visas

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Alephwyr@alephwyr
7/29/2023

This is going to kill people

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7/29/2023

Maybe there's a silver lining here. This might accelerate countries leaving the schengen visa system, although at a very slow pace.

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Nokcha@nokcha
7/29/2023

Wow, sad to see this. Seems really unecessary for that much info to be collected just to travel

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Sriram Krishnan@sriramk.eth
7/29/2023

two takes on this: a) yes the US doing this for many years is silly and it is fair for the EU to want reciprocal treatment b) but reality is EU needs tourism from the US more than vice versa. I wonder if this will face outcry in practice from EU tourism dependent companies and countries and a rollback.

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Cy Winther-Tamaki@tamaki
7/29/2023

Governments around the world are also requiring ever greater biometric data upon entry into a country. Not a fan of Worldcoin, but at least that’s opt in.

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Ivy Astrix@ivy
7/30/2023

canada!

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7/30/2023

I believe this is when the benefit of a Canadian, Australian or Swedish passport shines through. Or any other countries with very low levels of conflict with others. We already see less need to settle in one place for the more well off. The countries need them more than they need the countries - for tax and spending.

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Buuvei@buuvei
7/30/2023

Applying for visa is regular stuff for us normies

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Sheftali@sheftali
7/30/2023

One day, VISAs will be soulbound tokens that get renewed on the blockchain 🤔